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Honda BF50D H/P fuel pump not staying entergized

Iceman12

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I have a 2012 BF50D S#BBEJ 1012938 that will entergize the H/P fuel pump with the key on & I can achieve 40 psi. When I start the engine, it will run until the fuel pressure drops to about 20psi. I replaced the H/P fuel pump due to stuck in the VST & cleaned. I bought a factory manual to find what components control it. With a test light & DC volt meter. the pos. side is good to the pump. The neg. side gets a 2 sec. completion to the pump. It drops when the engine is started. Cleaned all connections with electronic cleaner & applied Dielectric grease. Hooked up the motor to a separate battery & cables to insure a strong 12v. The manual states that the ECU controls the neg. (blk/white) wire with inputs from the (2) crank & (1) cam sensors. There are no alarms active via a Sierra Stats Dia. tool. Also checked by jumping the data link conn. Replaced the ECU with a new unit. same results. replaced the Crank & cam sensors. Same results. I intersected the F/P (blk/white) with a test conn. (male/female).(The VST is buried behind the intake) I can put a jumper to the motor block to the blk/white (separated from from the ECU) & the engine will run & maintain 40 psi F/P. A volt meter shows varying dc volts.(from the ECU) Some times 13.5 down to 4v. Strange that while the motor is off or running, the Sierra Stat showed the fuel pump was turned off. I pulled the (2) crank,(1) cam,& heat sensors 1 at a time. they would set a alarm & I could reset the individual alarms via the Sierra Stat.
Any suggestions as I am stumped!!
Iceman
 
Here's a way to test the integrity of the negative return to the ecu. Using jump wires,to run the fuel pump so that you can start and run the engine. Using a 12V test lamp with a 5W bulb (not LED ), connect the one end to the black/white in the fuel pump connector and the other to the positive battery cable and check to see if the light remains on and bright. I am guessing it will not glow or if it does, very dim. Then using the test light again, do the same test on the neg wires to the ecu plugs with the plugs disconnected and check you have a good solid glowing light. This should verify that the neg wires are good. People make the mistake of using a multi meter to carry out these tests which does not load the circuit and can show 12 volts when in fact there is very high resistance. Try this and let me know how you go, I believe this will reveal a bad ground, either an individual wire or poor earth to engine block connection.
 
iang6766
Tks 4 the reply
I will do as you suggested in the am. also I was able to free up the original fuel pump. I'll place that one on the neg. output of the ECU & the one in the VST I'll wire to ground & start the engine. This will allow me to check the voltage(voltmeter) & amp draw (DC ampmeter) to compare both pumps in a running situation.
Question- Is there any other sensor or component that controls the H/P fuel pump other than the (2) crank, (1)cam sensors & ECU?
As stated in my 1st post, I went to a seperate
 
battery & cables. The new pump runs perfect when the blk/white wire is grounded to the block.
Your input is leading me to the harness &/or plug @the ECU.
Iceman

sorry 4 the split posts as i'm a newbe as this
 
I would not be using anything other than a test light as I described, you will risk damaging the ecu if the old pump draws too much current. There are no other sensors involved, you have been very thourough in working out how it all works and I commend you for this. However, I belive in keeping things simple. you need to thoroughly check your ground circuits as that is the only thing you haven't done
 
iang6766
Tks 4 the additional info.
As soon as I can tomorrow, I'll follow your suggestions & update you.
Much obliged.
Iceman
 
iang6766
Success!!
I installed the 5w bulb as you suggested. Nice & bright. A volt meter showed 13.5 volts with the motor running (vst pump straight wired). Then i got hard headed - I reinstalled the old ECU & wired the old (factory) pump it. then I place it in a bucket of fuel to allow it to load up. It ran fine. The amp draw was 1 amp. when I placed my finger over the outlet, it went up to 1.2 amps. The new pump in the vst was showing 5.0 amps (yikes). So I reinstalled the old pump back in the vst. ( I failed to mention that the new pump was a after market unit guaranteed to match factory specs.) The motor runs fine with the new ECU & new pump laying on the bench. I then ordered a new factory pump today
 
FYI
The old pump pulls 1.7 amps installed in the VST. Apparently The ECU does like that high amp draw & lock out the fuel pump.
Iceman
 
I have
Interesting, I have not come across that before, one has to wonder then why they use a 10amp fuse.
Here's a way to test the integrity of the negative return to the ecu. Using jump wires,to run the fuel pump so that you can start and run the engine. Using a 12V test lamp with a 5W bulb (not LED ), connect the one end to the black/white in the fuel pump connector and the other to the positive battery cable and check to see if the light remains on and bright. I am guessing it will not glow or if it does, very dim. Then using the test light again, do the same test on the neg wires to the ecu plugs with the plugs disconnected and check you have a good solid glowing light. This should verify that the neg wires are good. People make the mistake of using a multi meter to carry out these tests which does not load the circuit and can show 12 volts when in fact there is very high resistance. Try this and let me know how you go, I believe this will reveal a bad ground, either an individual wire or poor earth to engine block connection.
i have the same problem with iceman and maybe installing a factory pump will make same result on me.I will let you know if it works
 

SOLVED: Honda BF40D/BF50D EFI — pump primes 2–3 sec, engine starts and dies (aftermarket pump + add-on relay)​



Symptoms​


Key ON — the high-pressure fuel pump primes for 2–3 seconds and stops (that part is normal). The engine starts on the primed rail pressure, runs a few seconds, and dies. The pump never gets re-energized while cranking/running.


Key test​


We hot-wired the pump straight to 12V — the engine started and ran perfectly. So the pump delivers, pressure is fine, injection and ignition are fine. Back on the stock connector — it dies again.


Root cause​


Our pump is a Chinese aftermarket unit from AliExpress sold as a universal pump: "Fuel pump for Honda EFI Outboards BF40 BF50 BF60 BFP60 BF75 BF90 BF115 BF130 BF150 BF175 BF200 BF225 (16735-ZZ5-003 / 16735-ZW5-003)".


The pump itself: https://a.aliexpress.com/_EyEVqq2 — as a pump it works great (pressure, flow, starting), no complaints about pumping quality. It looks identical to OEM. But precisely because it is "one pump for 40–225 hp", its current draw is far higher than the genuine BF40D pump: OEM draws ~1–1.7 A, aftermarket units draw 5 A and more.


Part numbers these pumps are sold under: 16735-ZZ5-003, 16735-ZW5-003 (genuine Honda numbers for the high-pressure pump). Seller's fitment list: BF40, BF50, BF60, BFP60, BF75, BF90, BF115, BF130, BF150, BF175, BF200, BF225.


On the BF40D/BF50D there is NO separate fuel pump relay from the factory. Per the official Honda wiring diagram (poster TM035, free on Honda's site):

BF40D • BF50D WIRING DIAGRAM
  • Pump (+) with key ON: battery → fuse No.5 (10A) → MAIN RELAY (W/Bu wire) → fuse No.2 (10A) → Bu/R wire → pump.
  • Pump (−) is the Bl/W (black/white) wire going to the FFP pin of the ECM. The ECM turns the pump on by grounding this wire with its transistor — and it effectively monitors the current.

A pump with excessive draw gets treated as a fault and is locked out right after priming. That is why direct power works and the stock circuit doesn't. Identical documented cases on marineengine.com go back to 2020 (OEM ~1.7 A in the VST vs ~5 A aftermarket → ECM lockout).


The fix (without replacing the pump)​


Add a small relay that switches the pump's ground exactly like the ECM used to — but the ECM now only drives the relay coil (~0.1–0.15 A), and the heavy pump current bypasses the ECM completely:


  1. Pump (+) — unchanged: constant feed through the stock fuse No.2 (10A), Bu/R wire. The factory fuse keeps protecting the whole circuit.
  2. Cut the factory Bl/W wire(pump − → ECM) in two:
    • pump side → relay contact; from the other contact a new black wire goes to engine ground (bolt on the block). The full pump current flows here;
    • ECM side → relay coil (−). This is the stock control signal: when the ECM grounds Bl/W (priming, cranking, running), the relay closes and the pump runs. Full factory logic preserved — the pump still shuts off with the key/ECM.
  3. Coil (+) — a new red wire spliced into Bu/R at the shared node with the pump (+).
  4. Flyback diode across the coil, stripe (cathode) to "+", to protect the ECM transistor from the coil's inductive kick. Telling detail: on Honda's own diagram every factory relay (main relay, power tilt relay) has built-in diodes — we just do what the manufacturer does.

Wiring diagram attached.


Components — substitutes are fine, requirements are not​


  • Relay: we used a Panasonic AECN11012 (fully sealed, 12V coil / 117 mA, 15A contacts). Any 12V automotive relay with 10–15A contacts will do — but it must be a sealed type: under an outboard cowling you have salt mist and condensation, and an ordinary open-frame relay won't survive there.
  • Diode: we used a 6A10 (6A / 1000V). Any rectifier diode from 1A / 100V up works (1N4004–1N4007, 1N5402–1N5408, etc.), but prefer one with thick leads (DO-27 / DO-201AD packages like 1N5402 or 6A10) — thin leads eventually fatigue and snap on a vibrating engine.

Installation — critical​


The relay itself is connected via insulated 6.3 mm female spade terminals (standard automotive blade connectors matching the relay tabs). This is deliberate: the relay stays removable, so it can be swapped in a minute right on the water, no soldering iron needed — pull the terminals off the old one, push them onto the new one. That's also why a spare relay in the glovebox makes sense.


Every other joint (all splices into the harness) must be SOLDERED — no exceptions. No twist joints, no crimp butt connectors — on a vibrating engine in a salt environment only a soldered joint survives.


Procedure for every splice:


  1. Strip the wires and degrease the joint area and the surrounding insulation (alcohol/solvent) — otherwise the adhesive lining of the heat-shrink won't bond and the seal will fail.
  2. Solder the joint.
  3. DOUBLE adhesive-lined heat-shrink (glue inside): first tube over the joint itself, second tube over it, overlapping onto the wire insulation on both sides.

That gives a waterproof and mechanically solid connection. Twist-and-tape joints in a marine environment mean guaranteed corrosion and the problem coming back next season.


Result​


Priming is stock, the engine starts and runs flawlessly, the pump shuts off with the key/ECM exactly like factory. Verified and running.


Notes​


  • The ECM never sees the pump current anymore — the lockout is gone for good; it only drives the light coil.
  • The stock 10A fuse (No.2) still protects the pump circuit.
  • The mod doubles as a diagnostic: if the relay had NOT fixed it, the ECM wasn't sending the FFP command at all — then check the Bl/W wire, grounds, and the ECM connector.
  • Long term, a genuine Honda pump (16735-ZZ5-003) remains the cleanest solution — but this mod lets you run a healthy aftermarket pump that is simply hungrier than OEM.



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