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Honda BF50 new noise under High RPM/LOAD

Noah4200

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Well guys i’m back again with this old motor. After issues all last few years with flywheel magnet delamination, bad CDI (after replacing almost everything) is running great and is now reliable BUT i feel like it’s a little too loud underway. This added rattle/vibration sound has only been there since my repairs last year. At higher RPM it’s just an added roughness/ticking/rattle over the smooth hum of the engine. It’s very slight (my wife doesn’t think it sounds bad) but i can’t let it go. My first thought is detonation- i’ve been burning through older gas that was only REC 87 to begin with. I use treatment but in all honesty one tank is 6 months old and the other probably 3. But even earlier in the year when the gas was newer i feel like the noise was still there. My other thought is some slight interference under the flywheel/pulleys…during my failed CDI nightmare i swapped the ignition and pulser coils with used ones off ebay. Maybe something is a little off. BUT I would think low rpm would make noise too. Last thing is maybe the timing is one notch off- i am usually pretty meticulous but i’ll check that too. I adjusted the valves last year so i don’t think it’s that. Maybe a small exhaust leak?(i did an acid flush maybe it ate thru a passage in a corroded area)? Maybe just a vibrating plug or component? I’ll get some newer higher octane gas, pull the timing cover off and look around and try to take a video. I guess it’s possible this is just the normal timing system noise and i’m just hearing the flywheel and tensioner ratcheting noise…just was expecting a clean smooth honda hum :)
 
This is directly from the HONDA MARINE CARBURETION MANUAL.....I'll just copy it here:

"Due to the high performance design of the BF50 and the additional openings on the silencer cover, this engine will produce more noticeable induction aspiration noise compared to other Honda engines.
This noise will actually sound like a metallic knock when the engine is at WOT and under load. This is normal and should not be misdiagnosed as to abnormal engine condition which could result in the engine being disassembled unnecessarily."


So, if you can associate what you're hearing with that engineering note, you've got nothing to worry about BUT.....

....you DO have a pretty good ear! ;◇)
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This is directly from the HONDA MARINE CARBURETION MANUAL.....I'll just copy it here:

"Due to the high performance design of the BF50 and the additional openings on the silencer cover, this engine will produce more noticeable induction aspiration noise compared to other Honda engines.
This noise will actually sound like a metallic knock when the engine is at WOT and under load. This is normal and should not be misdiagnosed as to abnormal engine condition which could result in the engine being disassembled unnecessarily."


So, if you can associate what you're hearing with that engineering note, you've got nothing to worry about BUT.....

....you DO have a pretty good ear! ;◇)
.
Thank you so much! This sounds like what i’m hearing!….just seems a little too raw/throaty! It’s running perfectly. I’ll keep yall updated :)
 
Makes one wonder.....

....They took the time and effort to print that. Big corporations don't typically do that. .....unless....

....I bet that people....including dealers.....were tearing down 50's all over the world looking for what's making that noise!
 
Makes one wonder.....

....They took the time and effort to print that. Big corporations don't typically do that. .....unless....

....I bet that people....including dealers.....were tearing down 50's all over the world looking for what's making that noise!
Im so relieved. I can’t thank you enough Jgmo! It definitely has that throaty air intake sound in hindsight. Now i can concentrate on USING this boat instead of hunting boogeyman. It’s prime shrimping season so i’ll be idling around the creeks of Jekyll and St Simon looking for salt and pepper on the bottom! :)
 
This is directly from the HONDA MARINE CARBURETION MANUAL.....I'll just copy it here:

"Due to the high performance design of the BF50 and the additional openings on the silencer cover, this engine will produce more noticeable induction aspiration noise compared to other Honda engines.
This noise will actually sound like a metallic knock when the engine is at WOT and under load. This is normal and should not be misdiagnosed as to abnormal engine condition which could result in the engine being disassembled unnecessarily."


So, if you can associate what you're hearing with that engineering note, you've got nothing to worry about BUT.....

....you DO have a pretty good ear! ;◇)
.
Really interesting!
 
Next step?
 

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Maybe!....but if it blocks your ability to hear the noise, does it also block the ability for air to enter those additional muffler vents????

I truly think the MOST interesting thing.....in this case....is how NOAH approaches the task of telling his wife that SHE WAS RIGHT!:ROFLMAO:
 
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