Clutch Dog Position

[1984 Tidecraft]

Hello, I have a 1983 Johnson 115 HP V4 motor. I am replacing the clutch dog on it. I noticed the old and new clutch dog have splines groves on the three ears/tabs only on one side of the clutch dog. I did not notice if the ears/tabs with the spline grove faced the forward or reverse gear when I removed the old clutch dog. I looked online and it says it is very important the clutch dog faces the correct way. There were different comments which way the clutch dog should face. My old and new clutch dog has no grove or lettering on them indicating which way it should face. I would appreciate it if someone can tell me for sure if the ears/tabs with the groves should face the forward or reverse gear. Thanks, Richard

 

[racerone]

Where did you source the new part from ?

 

[1984 Tidecraft]

From Marine Engine. I asked the Salesman at Marine Engine I ordered it from if he knew which way it should be installed, and he didn't know and he gave me the information to this forum.

 

[racerone]

Take it to your local friendly boat shop.-----They will know !

 

[1984 Tidecraft]

I live in a rural area in TX and I originally took it to the local boat shop. I have not used/started my boat in about five years. The originally problem was the motor wouldn't turn over. The boat shop found the problem was the lower gear unit was locked up. Somehow water got into the lower unit. The boat shop took off the water pump, the prop, the gear shaft housing, and removed the bearing housing and determined I needed a whole lower gear unit replacement. The cost for the rebuilt lower unit and for labor was more than what I think the boat is worth. Plus, I am retired so I have to watch how much money I spend. I tore into the lower gear unit myself and the main problem I found was the drive shaft would not turn. I got the drive shaft broke loose and everything else looked pretty good except for the bearings, (they were rusted up) which I bought new ones to replace. The old clutch dog didn't look all the bad, but I decided to replace the clutch dog since I had it the lower unit torn apart and since some of the parts for this lower unit are hard to get. I'm not too sure the local boat shop will help me very much since I didn't let them make the repair. Any help someone can give me as to which way the ears/tabs with the spline groves on the clutch dog should face I will really appreciate it. Thanks

 

[racerone]

Post a few pictures of the new clutch dog here.----Final update.----Lugs with no splines face the prop end.----Make sure you install a seal kit.----Make sure you set shift rod to correct dimension.

 

[1984 Tidecraft]

Hello Racerone, I went to take pictures of the new clutch dog, and I found some writing on it showing which end goes towards the propeller. Sorry for not seeing that earlier but thank you for your willingness to help me. Thanks, Richard

 

[racerone]

Funny.-----But you are replacing the bearing above the pinion gear?----Picture of the bottom of the driveshaft?

 

[1984 Tidecraft]

I did replace the bearing above the pinion gear. The bottom of the driveshaft looks good. I also have a seal kit. I will have to guess at the shift rod dimension because the boat repair shop, I took it to removed it and didn't reinstall it, so I don't know what its dimension was. I read online where it should be 21 27/32" from the top of the lower gear unit housing to the middle of the hole in the shift rod so I was going to give that a try.

 

[1984 Tidecraft]

Hello all, I am rebuilding my lower gear unit on my 1983 Johnson 115 HP V4 and I ordered seal kit, part number 18-2692 from Marine Engine. I cannot figure out where the O-ring, part number 322598 goes that came in the kit. Does anyone know where it goes? Thanks, Richard

 

[fitz73222]

Has nothing to do with your gearcase, that is a fuel connector o-ring.

 

[1984 Tidecraft]

OK, thank you very much for the information. I wonder why they include it with the kit? Everything else in the kit is for the lower gearcase.

 

[racerone]

Typical " aftermarket " mistake.

 

[1984 Tidecraft]

OK, thanks. Another question I have. I replaced the pinion bearing. As far as I can tell, I put the new bearing right where the old bearing was in the driveshaft channel. I can't tell if the retaining screw is making contact with the new pinion bearing. Should it be?

 

[racerone]

The screw does not contact the bearing sides.----It goes in just above the bearing,

 

[1984 Tidecraft]

OK, thank you so much for your help.

 

[1984 Tidecraft]

Hello, I am doing some maintenance on the steering system on my 1983 Johnson 115 hp motor. I have two steering cables that connects to two steel rods that connects to the rod that turns the motor from side to side. Only the housing for the back rod which is the closest rod to the motor has a grease fitting. I can't see how grease gets to the front rod because the housing for the front rod doesn't have a grease fitting and the front housing for the front rod and the housing for the back rod doesn't seem to be interconnected. Can someone tell me if/how grease gets into the front rod housing. Also, I put grease into the back housing fitting for the back rod until grease came out at the seams. I turned the motor side to side several times, but the steel rod is still dry. Should the rod have grease on it since I put grease in the housing and I turned it side to side? There is a nut on the outside of the housing that the rod goes through and that nut may be cleaning the grease from the rod as the rod moves through it, not sure, just guessing. Should I put grease or a spray lubricant onto the rods? I looked online to see if I should do that and there are mixed comments about putting grease or a spray lubricant onto the steel rods. Some people say to do it because it will help the motor turn earier, and others say don't do it because it will attract dirt, grime. Attached are two pictures, one of the grease fitting where I am pointing to it with my finger, and the other picture is of the two steel rods that connects to the steering cables.